Jason Rosenberg brings us the new Campfire discussions: It is ok that NBC may not let US citizens know the results of Olympic events until up to 12 hours after they happen? What's happening in your country with Olympic footage?
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I think it would be ok for them to copyright the videos and such from the olympics, because they did pay a lot of money, and such. But I do think they crossed the line in not allowing people to post to facebook and twitter and such. I think when somebody stops thought it really turns bad.
Please excuse the sound quality, either my speakers are damaged from the rock conert last week or if you play the message backwards and slightly slower, the words of the devil will reach into your immortal soul... Either or.
Also please excuse my snarky comment at the end, I said it without really thinking about it because the thought that I had to grant permission for Epic Fu to use my video in the show was funny somehow. Either way, thou hath permission to use my ugly mug on the show if you desire. You may not want to, but you can. Which is more than what I can say about some major media outlets these days.
Basically, I don't think NBC will ultimately be able to control everything. I think the move was mostly to block out other major media outlets, which still sucks, but in terms of yanking content down, I have a feeling that NBC might try some of that, but once the floodgate goes down, it's down and there's not a helluva lot they can do about it except sue their possible viewers, but let's face it, NBC isn't going to want to look like ***holes to the whole world and have their ad revenues drop off because of stupid legal actions.
The exception to this might be if China imposed a media ban, but the whole reason the Olympics are in china is so they can show the world that the government there isn't completely composed of heartless bastards, so I have a feeling they will let a lot of things like cameras and laptops and mobile phones slide.
China blocked the Visa of former Gold Medalist and Darfur Activist Joey Cheek.
Ironically, this has only led to more publicity for Cheek's message. It also, once again, shows how the chinese govt. is cancer.
Can we post a link to some article stating that NBC is preventing others from posting up user created content of the Olympics? I'm searching and can't find it.
Check out this story from the SportsBusiness Journal about NBC's copyright over the Olympics.
Credentialing rules issued through several national governing bodies for upcoming Olympic trials require that all audio and video files contain a link back to nbcolympics.com. The rules also heavily restrict all forms of multimedia in and around the fields of play, including athlete interviews, and require that all audio and video be removed from media sites by Aug. 7, the day before the start of the Beijing Olympics. Text-based blogging is permitted under the new provisions.
The rules will affect news coverage at three of the summer’s biggest trials: swimming, gymnastics, and track and field.
“This is the first Olympic trials where new media has been relevant,” said Jill Geer, USA Track & Field’s director of communications. “Everybody’s trying to figure it out.”
NBC executives declined to comment, saying only that a different set of regulations will be issued in early July governing the use of online audio and video during the Summer Games by those who are not rights holders. Unconfirmed industry chatter among media outlets is that NBC will seek heavy embargoes on content emanating from Bejiing through other outlets.
Good point about the sovereignty. Unless there's a waiver of sorts that everyone signs (which would be horrendous and unenforceable for the events), NBC would have a hard time proving any case against a single person.
The more I think about what NBC did, the more I think it's likely they are going to use this against larger media outlets instead of smaller individuals because there would just be too much paperwork involved.
Great video and great questions! Here's a perfect example to test your argument:
The opening ceremonies will feature a three hour performance featuring thousands of dancers special effects and more. The performance is top secret until August 8th, the opening day of the Olympics. However, a two minute clip was filmed by a South Korean journalist and broadcast on South Korean news. That film was posted on YouTube. The Chinese Gov't went to YouTube and demanded that the video be taken down. YouTube obliged. When I heard about it, I couldn't find it on YouTube (only a note that said it had been taken down due to a copyright violation) so I searched around and found it on LiveLeak and I watched it. Problem is, the Chinese Government got to that one too. It just took a little longer. The Chinese Government (like NBC) knows how to reach YouTube. They probably have a direct line to Google's China offices!
So footage from a South Korean camera goes to South Korean news, goes to American based YouTube and the footage is zapped.
If the Chinese government/NBC go after similar Amatuer footage of actual sporting events, they'll have such a backlog that the olympics will be over before the majority of them will be taken down :P
I wonder how many torrent servers will be humming along with footage that has been taken down. Legit companies may have to comply, but independent servers worldwide will take a lot longer to hose.
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